Summary

In this episode, Andy welcomes back networking expert and keynote speaker Kari Mirabal, author of You Already Have the No. Kari shares practical strategies for building authentic relationships that can help you not only survive but thrive during career transitions.

They explore the challenges of networking when you're early in your career, in between jobs, or worried about losing the one you have. Kari unpacks how to make the most of platforms like LinkedIn, how to overcome fear and rejection, and the value of making the ask—even if you think the answer will be “no.” She also shares a powerful reframe tool (LTR: Lie, Truth, Reframe) to help you move past limiting beliefs.

Whether you're navigating a job change, building your personal brand, or trying to future-proof your career, Kari’s approachable, energizing advice is just what you need. If you’re looking for insights on how to build relationships that open doors, this episode is for you!

Sound Bites

“You already have the no before you ask. So what do you have to lose? Nothing.”
"Sales is not synonymous with networking, but service is."
"Sometimes it wasn’t the person who was most qualified that got the job. It was the person who marketed themself the best."
"Be a stalker, liker, commenter, poster."
“Don’t wait until you need a network to start building one. Build the well before you’re thirsty.”
“Asking is not a sign of weakness. It’s a sign of strength.”
“Confidence is a skill. The more you practice, the stronger it gets.”
“LinkedIn changed my life, and it can change yours too.”

Chapters

00:00 Introduction
02:04 Start of Interview
02:14 Were You Always a Natural Networker?
04:34 Is LinkedIn Still Worth It? Tips for Beginners
08:08 How to Make the Ask, Even if You're New
13:02 How Kari’s Son Landed an Internship Through Networking
17:21 Advice for Making a Career or Industry Transition
25:00 What to Do If You’re Worried About Job Security
27:20 Why We Let Fear Hold Us Back and How to Reframe It
32:40 The Role of AI in Relationship Building and Job Seeking
34:40 What Parents Can Do to Help Their Kids Network Confidently
38:16 End of Interview
38:39 Andy Comments After the Interview
42:51 Outtakes

Learn More

You can learn more about Kari and her work at KariMirabal.com.

For more learning on this topic, check out:

Episode 285 for my earlier conversation with Kari.
Episode 318 with John Stepper. It’s a great follow up to today’s discussion on how to build new connections and a better career.
Episode 356 with Eric Barker. Eric and I talked about why everything we know about relationships is mostly wrong.

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Topics: Networking, Career Development, Job Search, LinkedIn Strategy, Relationship Building, Influence, Confidence, Career Transition, Professional Growth, Emotional Intelligence, Personal Branding, Fear of Rejection, Leadership

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