
Jay'sAnalysis Jay Dyer DEBUNKS Matt Fradd & Trent Horn’s "Should We Become Eastern Orthodox?"
Oct 2, 2025
In a lively debate, Jay scrutinizes the reasons for converting to Eastern Orthodoxy versus Roman Catholicism. He argues that scandals shouldn't dictate faith choices, highlighting more extensive issues in the Catholic Church. The discussion includes perspectives on the historical schism and the true nature of papal authority, questioning if the papacy provides unity or chaos. Jay emphasizes a shared apostolic authority rather than an exclusive papal power, while also addressing the contrast between Christ’s teachings and medieval papal practices.
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Scandals Aren't Sufficient Grounds
- Jay Dyer says scandals alone are a bad reason to convert to Orthodoxy and exist across all churches.
- He argues Rome's scale of scandal exceeds others, so scandal comparison matters contextually.
Papal Promises Versus Practical Results
- Jay Dyer argues Roman papal claims promise unity and clarity but haven't delivered them, especially since Vatican II.
- He presents recent papal ambiguity as evidence the papacy fails its pragmatic apologetic.
Pentecost Undercuts A Papal Viceroy
- Jay Dyer contends the Holy Spirit at Pentecost empowers the whole apostolic college, undermining a need for an earthly viceroy.
- He links filioque and papalism, claiming a Spirit-doctrine loss led to human centralization around the Pope.

