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Oct 15, 2025 In this engaging discussion, the hosts tackle the surprisingly muted government shutdown and its real impact on services like Medicare. They delve into the Democrats' efforts to link the shutdown to expiring Obamacare subsidies for political leverage. Drawing attention to Trump’s immigration tactics, they debate how centrists can effectively respond. The conversation also explores the controversy surrounding Bari Weiss at CBS, media bias, and the curious plot of Die Hard's bearer bonds — including a deep dive into their historic implications and practical absurdities.
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Centrism As A Positive Identity
- Centrism is framed as a positive identity, not just opposition to extremes.
- The hosts argue centrists can unite around temperament, incrementalism, and practical compromises.
Temperament Trumps Doctrine
- Temperament matters: centrists share tolerance for pluralism despite policy disagreements.
- The hosts stress compromise and recognizing limited information behind beliefs.
Make Centrism Tangible
- Understand where the actual public center lies on issues like immigration.
- Build centrist politics that deliver concrete benefits, not just vague moderation.