In this week’s episode, host Daniel Raimi talks with Paul Joskow, an economics professor at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology and a member of the President’s Council at Resources for the Future. Joskow has had a long and distinguished career that spans a wide range of energy and environmental topics. In his conversation with Raimi, Joskow discusses his new working paper about the challenges related to expanding the electricity grid. Growing the grid will be a critical component for achieving long-term decarbonization goals, but growth comes with a lot of hurdles. Joskow describes those hurdles, alongside what solutions might help knock them down. References and recommendations: “Facilitating Transmission Expansion to Support Efficient Decarbonization of the Electricity Sector” by Paul L. Joskow; http://ceepr.mit.edu/publications/working-papers/758 “Churchill: Walking with Destiny” by Andrew Roberts; https://www.andrew-roberts.net/books/churchill-walking-destiny/ “Franklin and Winston: An Intimate Portrait of an Epic Friendship” by Jon Meacham; https://www.jonmeacham.com/book/franklin-and-winston-an-intimate-portrait-of-an-epic-friendship/ Books by John le Carré; https://johnlecarre.com/ “Networks of Power: Electrification in Western Society, 1880–1930” by Thomas Parker Hughes; https://jhupbooks.press.jhu.edu/title/networks-power “A French Village” television series; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Un_village_fran%C3%A7ais “Come From Away” play; https://comefromaway.com/ “The Polio Crusade” documentary; https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/americanexperience/films/polio/