Julia Zemiro of Rockwiz, Home Delivery and many other fabulous things joins Gabbi, Dom and Charles to explore how ordinary people can get their voices heard in Canberra – and maybe even get elected. Her new podcast about this is called 'Who Cares With Julia Zemiro', and will be in the A Rational Fear feed.

(The team's having a week off to celebrate the end of NSW's lockdown – but we have a brand new extended chat with some of our favourite people for you each morning – plus fresh headlines every day!)

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Getting Outsiders In | Julia Zemiro