
The Michael Knowles Show Merry Christmas: Let’s Talk About The End of the World - Michael Knowles & Bishop Barron EXPLAIN
Dec 24, 2025
In this enlightening conversation, Michael Knowles chats with Bishop Robert Barron, a prominent Catholic bishop and the founder of Word on Fire ministries. They delve into the deeper meanings of Advent and Christmas, exploring the darker undertones of the Nativity and biblical symbolism in Luke's account. Bishop Barron discusses the tension between politics and faith, advocating for active Christian engagement rather than withdrawal. They also reflect on the tangible aspects of faith, emphasizing the importance of participating in sacraments and embodying the incarnation's healing work.
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Threefold Meaning Of Advent
- Christmas combines remembrance of the past, Christ born within us now, and anticipation of the definitive second coming.
- Bishop Robert Barron warns that each dimension carries a dark, unsettling edge we often sentimentalize away.
Incarnation Provokes Inner Resistance
- The incarnation provokes resistance because it demands inner change and moral rearrangement.
- Barron emphasizes we both want and fear Christ's coming into our lives.
Nativity Signifies Spiritual Conflict
- The Christmas narrative contains conflict: Caesar's power contrasts with the angelic army announcing a new king.
- Barron stresses the nativity signals an unfolding spiritual battle culminating in the cross.

