

69. England v Ukraine
8 snips Jul 2, 2021
In a lively discussion, the hosts delve into the rich historical ties between England and Ukraine, touching on key moments like the Crimea and Kievan Rus. They humorously explore the unexpected success of the England football team during Euro 2020 while linking sporting rivalries to national identities. With anecdotes about Florence Nightingale and the chaotic Charge of the Light Brigade, they blend history with football, offering playful predictions for the upcoming match. Their lighthearted banter adds an entertaining spin to serious historical themes.
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Missed Game
- Tom Holland missed England's victory over Germany due to his son's play.
- Dominic Sandbrook watched it live, then interviewed Francis Fukuyama, author of "The End of History".
Fukuyama's Theory
- Francis Fukuyama believes international sporting competitions prevent violent historical conflicts.
- He argues they channel passions into harmless competition.
Sports and Conflict
- Tom Holland counters Fukuyama, citing the Football War and the breakup of Yugoslavia as examples of sport fueling conflict.
- Croatian captain Zvonimir Boban's fight with riot police foreshadowed the bloodshed.