Newton comes along and gives us a paradigm. An overarching model for physics. There's no paradigm for the whole. But surely surely there is another part to the world. I suppose if you think of Eastern traditions and they're sort of like dialectical approach, you know, the Dow when one is not one’s thoughts but rather an alternative set of ideas. Okay. Is this the question or in consciousness. Is this what we're talking about? How is it that you and I are sitting here as people that have a sense of self identity?"

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