Rick Rubin is a producer and he has one looks like nine different Grammy awards over the course of 25 years from 1996 to 2021 that can have lots of benefits as we've called it in the past but externalizing that can haveLots of benefits as I'm sure you would attest to. build up the habits of collecting these seeds and then nurture those seeds and they'll grow into some cool things later on so yes these are awesome probably some of my favorite parts of the book and it's worth calling out even if you have followed along since episode one and heard us talk about these things before.