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A Quantitative Approach to Innovation with PJ Kirner, Co-Founder and Advisor, Illumio
The Segment: A Zero Trust Leadership Podcast
How to Deliver a Successful Zero Trust Project
I think it's sometimes hard to measure that, right? It's really about very tactical outcomes and measuring and iterating every step. And again, why I really like the Bishop Fox research is it's against the real adversary, right? There's an attacker, a real attacker, not finding a crown jewel.
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