"Scrappiness to me involves being super creative and not only inventive and resourceful and innovative, but it also means sometimes being a little bit messy," she says. "I think about putting on my scrappy pants all the time, especially when I'm like, I'm never going to figure this out or this isn't going to be what I want." She adds that we invite magic into our lives when we take matters into our own hands.

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