The Magic Wine Question

I think that part of that is because, likee said, we're kind of a stage where if you truly want to do the right thing in this regard, it does, in many ways, need to come from within. It's been positive to see that there's more and more capital shifting towards these sort of topics. The theory, of course, with those oil companies, is that at some point the cost of capital for them starts to go up. And so it's going to take a long time, and the prospects are not great. Younow, as we both know,. it's a really tough challenge, and we're not making a kind of enough progress on this.

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