Ana, do you think that we stand a chance when we're not conscious ofthe effects of technology on our biology? U, man, that is a big question. When you consider how much is being invested in behavior design and the design very specifically to maximise engagement time with platforms and technology then i become a bit of a pessimist. That' animals. I realize there is amazing opportunities there, amazing things that technology brings. And if you are not attending to your own emotional stuff, sadness, you know, all the things i you will escape it with technology. We're having this conversation right now in two different countries, separated by thousands of miles. I can see you,

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