What's Our Greatest Punishment as a Society?

"The two most pitiable groups of people were people like me with young children at home who had to do virtual school," she says. "People who were single and completely alone, right? And I remember talking to people like that, friends of mine or my brother at one point was living by himself." She adds: "When you think about our greatest punishment as a society, outside of death, what's our greatest punishment?"