When the Facts Change, You Can Actually Make Money

New zealand has a relatively low, what they call up and out ratio. It's really easy to start a business here but lots of people just hold onto them. They stagger on sombre like they don't grow up. How do we turn our zomby small businesses into productivity machines? This week on when the facts change. I talk to chris small, the managing director of a b c business soles. He talks about this tendency we have in new zealand to not want to be successful. We know that it's the businesses that grow, that get scale, that you invest in and that connect wid the rest of the world, that are the ones that grow