I think we're living in the real world. And there is a reasonable comeback, which I've heard unofficially, is that the US is not intrinsically opposed to a treaty. It just doesn't believe that other countries, particularly China, would abide by a treaty. By even talking about a treaty, you're inviting the possibility of some kind of strategic surprise that will be to the detriment of the US. So I'm much more optimistic that we can have discussions about how to verify a treaty and what kinds of measures we would put in place.
The Sunday Times’ tech correspondent Danny Fortson brings on Stuart Russell, professor at UC Berkeley and one of the world’s leading experts on artificial intelligence (AI), to talk about working in the field for decades (4:00), AI’s Sputnik moment (7:45), why these programmes aren’t very good at learning (13:00), trying to inoculating ourselves against the idea that software is sentient (15:00), why super intelligence will require more breakthroughs (17:20), autonomous weapons (26:15), getting politicians to regulate AI in warfare (30:30), building systems to control intelligent machines (36:20), the self-driving car example (39:45), how he figured out how to beat AlphaGo (43:45), the paper clip example (49:50), and the first AI programme he wrote as a 13-year-old. (55:45).
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