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059. Fred Dust: Designing Hard Conversations to Solve Big Problems

Leading Transformational Change with Tobias Sturesson

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The Sixth Sea Is Changed

The sixth sea is changed. And you use in the book the story of a pilgrimage going on a journey where we expect to be transformed. How have you seen change happen through creative conversations in your work in an organizational context? The hardest thing with a change, and that can be a change of a mind set, or a change where suddenly an idea has cind of taken hold of in a group of people. So there's a lot of ways you can design change into a room where you can make sure that we see change.

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