"If it was traumatic to you that's your trauma and that's okay," he says. "I started finding the pointy the end of trauma saying you're traumatized there's an end that is a weighted blanket and a fire and good music and sleep and whatever." He adds: "Most men go no I'm Clint Eastwood or no I won't think about my kids it's not because you're tough it's because you're terrified".
Pete and Val catch up and get INTO it!