The US spends the most in the world on health care, but it's more complex than that. If you think of two big buckets of spending, an upstream bucket of health care spending is about keeping you healthy. On the downstream side, we are the worst in the world in terms of spending and in terms of the value of what we spend.
We knew a pandemic was coming. We knew our police were treating some of us differently than others. So why were we so unprepared for what happened? In this eye-opening conversation, Rufus and author Dan Heath dig into what it takes to root out problems at their source, both in our own lives and in the larger world.