In your book you mentioned that one of the implications of the Nakamari text is precisely that it suggests there may have been esoteric teachings by Jesus that he reserved for his closest disciples.

Well, not suggest it's definitely state and actually you will find that as you know in the Gospel of Mark the earliest of the New Testament Gospels to be written which in Mark 4 it says Jesus when he was along with the disciples Mark 4, 10, 11 when he was alone with the disciples he spoke privately to them and he told them and he said to you alone is given the mystery of the kingdom of God. But to those outside everything is imperables. I'm not going to tell them and the perables aren't meant to be nice little teaching stories that make things easy to understand. They're actually obscure images that hide the meaning the secret meaning that the Gospel of Mark and the New Testament says Jesus taught only two of you. Now these other texts like the Gospel of Thomas say these are the secret teachings that the live in Jesus spoke. So Mark says Jesus taught secretly but he doesn't tell you what he said. The Gospel of Thomas says yes he taught secretly and these are some of the things he said ordinarily a tradition in Jewish tradition from which of course Jesus comes is that you don't write down secret traditions because they can be easily misunderstood. But somebody wrote them down and I suspect that we have among these so called secret Gospels secret teachings which were not supposed to be written and among Christians they were later called heresy and blasphemous and horrible and wrong but they were actually these secret teachings. Now here's the big question are the ones that were found in Egypt really the secret teachings of Jesus. The answer is we don't know but we don't really know how much in the Gospel of Mark is really the teaching of Jesus either or in Matthew or Luke. There's a lot of overlap here though in the Gospel of Thomas with Matthew and Luke and so the teachings in the Gospel of Thomas seem to me quite plausibly those of a first century Rabbi like Jesus and they reflect Jewish mystical traditions that that only became written down about a thousand years later 1500 years later from Spanish Jewish communities, Sephardic communities much later.