In this episode, Raoul Pal and Julien Bittel explain their “Everything Code” framework showing how global debt cycles, demographics, and liquidity drive all asset prices. They argue fiat debasement is running at ~8% annually, meaning only tech stocks and crypto have outperformed over time, while gold just preserves purchasing power. They discuss the societal and economic implications of AI replacing human labor, the end of traditional recessions, why liquidity will keep increasing to roll debts, and how this cycle could mirror or exceed 2017’s asset booms. Enjoy!

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Timestamps:

00:00 Intro

01:50 Big Macro Picture

05:52 Demographics & Debt

10:36 Liquidity & Real Returns

13:43 What is the Endgame?

14:33 Ads (Aptos)

17:49 The Everything Code

20:43 Shifting from QE to Bills

25:12 Financial Conditions

29:40 What’s Driving Gold?

31:42 2017 on Steroids

36:00 Ads (Aptos)

36:52 Nothing Stops This Train

38:32 Removing Recession Risk

44:27 Immigration

46:42 What Happens Next?

55:04 Resurgence of Religion

58:27 When Banana Zone?

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