As years go by, that mode of the bell curve just shifts over roughly one year at a time. And so it's like the same cohort of people who are on each other's grant committees that are warding themtheselves stuff. The old guard doesn't want to retract something or want to give in but when they're no longer there to fight it, then progress can be made. We'll put these links in the show notes for anyone listening on audia.

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