I don't think most people should stop looking at spirituality. Or religion or self-help, he says. It just depends what you're looking for and who you are. If you meditate, you can get some peace for 20 minutes a day. You commit any crimes? Of course not. That's not a crime. So, but I'm looking at everything from Buddhahood. The ultimate is the only thing which interests me. And my bias is holistically and directly towards ultimateness, truth, world class, reality,. He adds: "The peak of Everest, the ultimate of the ultimate"