Every morning I take the dogs for a walk in the woods without my phone. The Japanese have a whole tradition of forest bathing and that kind of thing. As a way to get us out of our habitual neurosis into something saying her, which is nature. So yes, but that's not a form that's not formal meditation. No, yeah, it's a good practice. It's why I walk in nature. Yeah, I just wonder if we talk about education and the Davos World Economic Forum and classes. ...I just wonder if the whole world could slow down and do a day or three of meditation"

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