It's like if you can't visualize it. You know the money to be able to have in X Y and Z retirement accounts so that you can pay for Here's what your projected lifestyle or bills would be at the time, right? Okay, where's the fun? Where's the story? Where’s the energy in that right? Right, where does that latch up to your goals and dreams in life that would get you enough to amat like connect you in such a way that you feel like I feel like that is me and I can see what that life looks like"

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