The Positive Effects of Gay Panic

"I hug Bella all the time. It's like, it's like hugging a stress toy or something," he says of his wife Val. "But if I could hug Tony Robbins, just like a scaffolding specimen, he's something that you would put next to a building that you could build another story on that building." The pair are talking about trying to maintain male friendship in an era where there is little tenderness among men.