Introduction

Isaac Herzog talks to Lyse about his country’s right to self-defence after the Hamas attacks of October 7th.

We also hear about a major Israeli attack on a refugee camp in Northern Gaza. Israel says Hamas leaders were the target.

REPORTERS: - Lyse Doucet, BBC chief international correspondent - Alex Lederman, BBC Washington producer

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This episode was made by Clare Williamson. The studio manager was Garreth Jones. The assistant editor was Neal Razzell. The senior news editors are Sam Bonham and Jonathan Aspinwall.