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Jon Erickson: "Illusions, Power and the Political Economy"

The Great Simplification with Nate Hagens

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What Would a Sustainable End State Look Like?

I think that there are a lot of people who've convinced themselves that they're keeping the system in place because that's what's best for them and for everybody else, right? I mean, the system depends on growth. And when the system stops growing, there's a lot of pain that goes around. So changing the system and having it less dependent or not dependent at all on growth is a huge lift. That's the kind of future that bring these same people joy through relationships with each other and the earth.

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