Zarathustra's surface style is meant as an illustration of what that sensibility would look to us. The point is sort of a relative of, i don't know if you remember martha nusbom's a fragility of goodness. And her line of the protagoris is that socrates hedonism on which, you know, you make decisions on the basis of just producing the greatest amount of pleasure. That's socrates recommendation for reforming are decision making. We are supposed to be looking to the reform programme to make things better for us, better by whose lights? and i think nita is prodding you in the same way.

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