"Men" w/ Fran Tirado and Rose Dommu
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The Importance of Living Out Loud
Koenig: I think what she did so incredibly well was to do serial and then have it be the podcast that invented podcasting. She made it so that it was about the product and not about her ego. And if you're making an impact, you're changing the world. You're doing something good. It's offensive because like he's not a news guy. He's not Brian Williams. Why isn't he in a sort of, you know, heaven by Mark Jacobs campaign? There's something about it where I need him to either be more or less,. Either be out of the spotlight completely and be a behind the scenes queen or be in the spotlight and have the courage
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