Introduction

Andrew was with me to talk about Hannah R.N. and now we're back here to do some ilich. Part of my interest in the election nowadays comes from my dissertation topic on ercemonvay, on intellectual leprosy. So that is where my current interest in illich lies. But we both have kind of very intriguing origin stories with our interest in Illich. And how we ended up on bookshelves. Yes, we do. It won't keep me away. I think everyone who reads him takes him seriously, but not many people read him because he never became part of the canon. Oh, my God. There it is. Where's the bump