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Am I Mindful Right Now? with Kenneth Folk

Deconstructing Yourself

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How Do We Know It's Profound Engagement?

The auditor doesn't need to be involved in what the experience is. The auditor just needs to intuitively believe it has to assign a high degree of probability that the meditator isn't making it up. So for this game, for this very high bar of what Satyapatana is, mindfulness or profound engagement with the object is necessary, but not sufficient. And so how do we know that it's profound engagement back to the auditor? Like, to me, when it dissolves into nothing or continuous flow, that's how I know it'm profound engagement.

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