i've been definitely getting more into a visual things in my my talks, but i totally agree that even bullet big bullet point pointed lists or just text in general, ye, you're basically just reading off the thing you're seeing on the slides is that doesn't rand make it engaging. So i do quite bullet points, but that's only to help the audience understand where you're at in the thought process. But having having the bullet point, that's fine too. You know, what i've been doing lately, wes is a the last two conferences, conference talks that i've given, i've used notion as my slides. And i just make the text all big, i

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