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77. Double Date with Brandi & Catherine Carlile!

We Can Do Hard Things

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The Importance of Control

"We fight about control, like I tend to be a very controlling person. And so Abby is uncontrollable." "I remember like being a kid like my favorite sound was gravel under car wheels," he says. 'It's like from here today it can surprise me today'

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