"Gift giving is like a home work assignment. You can't really give somebody a good gift at the last minute, because yuve got to do all thi stuff like a ran fiskin mom." "I just feel all all i notice is the anxiety when gift giving," she says. 'It's ens a joyous occasion of connection'
Long-time listener, first-time guest — Courtland (@csallen) and Channing's (@ChanningAllen) mom, Eva, joins the pod to talk raising twins, buying gifts, selling computer parts, co-founder theft, an Indie Hackers quiz for moms, and why you should never retire.