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Vaccines and Pandemic Response
I think there is like so much here to unpack both with BWC and you know maybe biological weapons and possibly even like bioterrorism more broadly which I think like deserves its whole entire episode. But if you guys are like all right moving on I'd love to circle back onto some of the original like R&D potential intervention set because we spent a lot of time kind of like mapping out the policy landscape if you will. And one place to reflect on lessons from COVID-19 or not it seems that a lot of you know conventional wisdom is that vaccines were really the thing that turned the tide in fighting CO VID-19. Just yeah I'm particularly curious how you see