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Episode 393 | "The Big Bro"

The Joe Budden Podcast

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The Chappe Story

"I'm not here to convince people. It's like you always got to go proof, proof o concept for the people to figure out that they need you bit and ten not want you to participate," he says. "That just proves that talent will always be greater than whatever viacom or whatever company that exists." 'Sometimes you just got to say no to im shit, cause that's what feels correct,' adds Shapesho.

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