I think the merger fight and divorce were particularly scarring. There's not a lot of time to recoup in the labor movement. The fights never quite over you can roll right into the next fight. I was taught that the main emotion that has enough power to override the fear that people feel when they're fighting is anger or rage. And those emotions are not often brought into the frame of organizing campaign. We should be talking about organizing as a form of mutual aid, as an act of community building and defense of the beloved community.