I didn't know how to appreciate anything until I went to art school. And once I had the awareness of like, because I didn't know what art was. So that's why it's hard for me to answer this question. A lot of artists, they end up in art. Well, because they love art,. Because it's undiagnosed, like learning difficulties. It's like they fail in everything else. The first kind of structural piece that I made when I found out about all these artists is a wax cast of my knee.

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