What if Ukraine Wins?
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Is There a Ukranian Victory?
What russia thinks is irrelevant. Russia has no impact on puten. So i think a victory isn't that hard to define. I mean, certainly a victory is ukraine pushing the russians out and retaining its borders as they were in feb February 20 fourth. And that's a clear victory, and the war could end if that's achieved. There's another level of victory, which as ukraine a also takes back territories that were won in 20 14,. including crimeaand the ukranians do talk about that and say they want to do that. But whether that's possible, or whether that would be dependent on negotiations, i can't tell you
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