Adam Sobel: Can you talk about border security quote-unquote as a form of punishment and deterrence and prejudicial punishments across both parties? Sobel: The cruelty has been the point since operation gatekeeper became policy in the mid 90s. Sobel: There's just so much money that so many people are benefiting from this border violence but there's no attempt to make it work for people.

Get the Snipd
podcast app

Unlock the knowledge in podcasts with the podcast player of the future.
App store bannerPlay store banner

AI-powered
podcast player

Listen to all your favourite podcasts with AI-powered features

Discover
highlights

Listen to the best highlights from the podcasts you love and dive into the full episode

Save any
moment

Hear something you like? Tap your headphones to save it with AI-generated key takeaways

Share
& Export

Send highlights to Twitter, WhatsApp or export them to Notion, Readwise & more

AI-powered
podcast player

Listen to all your favourite podcasts with AI-powered features

Discover
highlights

Listen to the best highlights from the podcasts you love and dive into the full episode