universal snarks are really important. In circuits like plomo or he file com one, it's very hard to get participants,. Because it takes a lot of time and it takes good hard ware to participate. So in ze cash, there were two trusted set ups. One was called sprout, one was called sapling. I'm just trying to figure out, time line wise, when i saw that talk at zcon, one you were working on universal snarks. But had that been actually incorporated into sapling? No. And this is the set up that or not the set up set up means something very specific. Mi ee may have been 20 years wrong about how long

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