Enabling Agents In The Enterprise With A Platform Approach
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Transitioning to Open Source: The LMOS Journey
This chapter explores the challenges and strategies involved in converting an internal project, the LMOS initiative, into an open-source platform. It emphasizes the importance of design abstraction, efficient operational frameworks, and introducing new programming paradigms while managing costs and resource usage. The discussion also highlights the role of the Elmos platform in facilitating agent lifecycle management and enhancing data accessibility for practical applications in businesses.
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In this episode of the Data Engineering Podcast Arun Joseph talks about developing and implementing agent platforms to empower businesses with agentic capabilities. From leading AI engineering at Deutsche Telekom to his current entrepreneurial venture focused on multi-agent systems, Arun shares insights on building agentic systems at an organizational scale, highlighting the importance of robust models, data connectivity, and orchestration loops. Listen in as he discusses the challenges of managing data context and cost in large-scale agent systems, the need for a unified context management platform to prevent data silos, and the potential for open-source projects like LMOS to provide a foundational substrate for agentic use cases that can transform enterprise architectures by enabling more efficient data management and decision-making processes.
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In this episode of the Data Engineering Podcast Arun Joseph talks about developing and implementing agent platforms to empower businesses with agentic capabilities. From leading AI engineering at Deutsche Telekom to his current entrepreneurial venture focused on multi-agent systems, Arun shares insights on building agentic systems at an organizational scale, highlighting the importance of robust models, data connectivity, and orchestration loops. Listen in as he discusses the challenges of managing data context and cost in large-scale agent systems, the need for a unified context management platform to prevent data silos, and the potential for open-source projects like LMOS to provide a foundational substrate for agentic use cases that can transform enterprise architectures by enabling more efficient data management and decision-making processes.
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- Your host is Tobias Macey and today I'm interviewing Arun Joseph about building an agent platform to empower the business to adopt agentic capabilities
- Introduction
- How did you get involved in the area of data management?
- Can you start by giving an overview of how Deutsche Telekom has been approaching applications of generative AI?
- What are the key challenges that have slowed adoption/implementation?
- Enabling non-engineering teams to define and manage AI agents in production is a challenging goal. From a data engineering perspective, what does the abstraction layer for these teams look like?
- How do you manage the underlying data pipelines, versioning of agents, and monitoring of these user-defined agents?
- What was your process for developing the architecture and interfaces for what ultimately became the LMOS?
- How do the principles of operatings systems help with managing the abstractions and composability of the framework?
- Can you describe the overall architecture of the LMOS?
- What does a typical workflow look like for someone who wants to build a new agent use case?
- How do you handle data discovery and embedding generation to avoid unnecessary duplication of processing?
- With your focus on openness and local control, how do you see your work complementing projects like Oumi
- What are the most interesting, innovative, or unexpected ways that you have seen LMOS used?
- What are the most interesting, unexpected, or challenging lessons that you have learned while working on LMOS?
- When is LMOS the wrong choice?
- What do you have planned for the future of LMOS and MASAIC?
Parting Question
- From your perspective, what is the biggest gap in the tooling or technology for data management today?
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- LMOS
- Deutsche Telekom
- MASAIC
- OpenAI Agents SDK
- RAG == Retrieval Augmented Generation
- LangChain
- Marvin Minsky
- Vector Database
- MCP == Model Context Protocol
- A2A (Agent to Agent) Protocol
- Qdrant
- LlamaIndex
- DVC == Data Version Control
- Kubernetes
- Kotlin
- Istio
- Xerox PARC)
- OODA (Observe, Orient, Decide, Act) Loop
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