Is There a Bridge of Healing?

I think it's, look, there's different degrees of change. Here's a great example. I interviewed this woman who was retired for like a year and a half,. She kept on waking up every day at five a.m. With a panic attack. And she transitioned into this new chapter in her life, but she still thought she was in the old one. So she needed something to demarcate that moment. But it's very difficult when it happens. Because it's so it feels meaningless.

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