The First Experience of Going Down Deep

"I was thinking along the lines of I'm going to go be a submarine commander and win the Cold War," he says. "It's a marine commander in some small, tiny way ... We contributed to winning the Cold War." The Navy has four levels: junior officer, department head, second in command,. executive officer and then commanding officers. When did you first get on a sub before you commanded one? In 1983.

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