The Human Roll of Risk Management

i've always found very interesting in speaking with you is your focus on the human roll of risk management. And often people think of risk management as very calculations and statistical models. But now, i think, over the course of your career, there's also been people that have really helped shape your approach through your career. You can't replace those experiences with a machine or an elga rhythmand cannot have to touch it and feel itand understand it and live it.