Sally Kohn: There's no point in time where you as my boss are not my boss. You never forget that like, this is a person who can promote you or not. But it's a dangerous signal to send and when somebody self describes that way, I'm like, I don't know what it's like to work for you.Kohn: For me, bosses who, who wanted to be peers might have believed that but I never did.
In episode 41, Melissa and Johnathan Nightingale emphasize what the manager title exactly entails and how to own the role.
Melissa and Johnathan are founders of Raw Signal Group, best-selling authors of "How F*cked Up Is Your Management? An Uncomfortable Conversation About Modern Leadership" and editors of The Co-Pour.
Before all that, Melissa has been a startup warrior, previously holding executive roles at Wattpad and Edomo … and was also Mozilla’s first Director of Global Public Relations. Johnathan, on the other hand, has built and operated entire organizations, all while helping improve diversity. He was previously VP of Firefox for Mozilla and CPO at Hubba.
In today’s episode, they shared lessons learned from their early management mistakes and why setting expectations is one of the most impactful things we can do as leaders.
Last but not least, Melissa and Johnathan explained how to help your team with burnout and “borrow from your future self”.
Tune in to hear all about Melissa and Johnathan Nightingale’s management journey and the takeaways they learned along the way!