Is Your Company Going to Be a Grind?

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"Your company isn't successful unless you can transform it into an elgarithm right? That that's actually a hall of success. So it's self defeating in some ways, from an ontrepeneal perspective, because it's going to become a grind if you actually do it right," he says. "You higher conscientious people, you highrer conservatives, because that's exactly what they want."

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