The Performative Aspect in Podcasting

Do you think there's more of a performative aspect in the main stream media or in the uchep world? How much is their performance carried across into what you see of them behind the screen? I don't know whether the performative aspect of when you see er, am john peterson interview with kathy newman, and then can they go away and shake hands and say, sort of, good well played, sir. That doesn't exist in podcasting as much, unless you want to completely annihilate your relationships with people. And how can we have these kind of friendships of virtue where we're not worrying so much about each other's feelings in the moment, as this