James Clear
Design Matters with Debbie Millman
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My Love of Cheese
"I have a cabin in the woods now too that I love to go out to," he says. "Being outdoors and running around the fields and feeding the cows, and yeah, that was all part of how I grew up." He has dreams of taking his grandkids out there like he did as a child.
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